A Dopamine Kick (Another ADHD Podcast)

50. Adhd Symptoms in Depth (Inattention Diagnostic Criteria 2/3)

November 13, 2022 Sparky and Shell
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This week we were following on from last week and continue to discuss the funny side of ADHD inattentive symptoms (as we go through the diagnostic criteria of ADHD for the next couple of episodes) to kick start our newly found focus on ADHD.  Next we'll start our 2 episodes on hyperactivity.

Please get in touch with your funny adhd memes and story’s, we’d love to hear from you. All our contact information is below 👇

Episode resources

List of symptoms, diagnostic criteria for ADHD and further information:
https://www.qandadhd.com/diagnostic-criteria

This website has loads of information on what to take to your GP should you be in the process of needing to see someone about ADHD
https://www.adhdadult.uk/

If you identify with 5 symptoms on each list often, it may be something you want to speak to your doctor about.

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Unknown Speaker 0:

24 Welcome to yes another ADHD podcast.

Sparky 0:

29 We're your host Sparky and shell joining us each week or we can hyper focus together on all things ADHD, which is our journey to diagnosis, the challenges frustrations and current. We're living with ADHD as adults.

Shell 0:

44 Hello everyone and welcome to episode 50 of dopamine kick. I really hope you liked our new intro. Today we are going to be following on where we left off last week with symptoms of inattention and before we get started

Sparky 0:

54 in this episode, Episode 50 a massive achievement for so I just wanted to say to you personally shout out I've really enjoyed getting these 50 episodes out. And even though sometimes it's been a stress and strain. I do think that we've kind of found our niche now and we found a way forward that want to go and we're so much better than we was in the beginning and even though we didn't think we were that great in the beginning, actually when I listen back I do enjoy our episodes and I think it's made us a lot more confident. And now we can just find out episodes like this, but I just wanted to let you know that yeah, I have really enjoyed this journey with you. But it's helping to stop you there because you know a lot to take the mick out of Charlie and a lot of episodes. If you haven't already, please consider subscribing to the podcast and giving us a review as well. Let us know how you feel about the podcast and send us your ADHD memes jokes or stories. And if they're any good, we will read them out even though we're not live.

Shell 1:

41 Okay, so getting back to intention. We were up to six and five. So symptom five is exhibit support organisation. Now this one I absolutely love because when Sparky and I found out about this symptom, we were both trying to outdo each other with our organisation which basically involved us like live filming areas of our house that like externally looked beautiful and clean

Sparky 2:

03 and opening a cupboard or drawer was so funny. You know what it was so funny because I have like a for those of you who watch Friends, I have a cupboard underneath my stairs and it's absolutely a bomb site in there.

Shell 2:

17 You should put it on social media. It's

Sparky 2:

18 just perfect. No, I can't

Shell 2:

22 understand. Yeah, you sent it to me thinking that I'd be shocked and I was like, I see that. Yeah.

Sparky 2:

29 This has been my desk in my bedroom like from closing and also to have to like kind of get all through my clothes and just to find that makeup of things. Okay, well what about the drawer in the kitchen, which looks like it's been awesome forks, but actually it's just

Shell 2:

43 one of those Windows OS doesn't even really close you have to sort of that regedit closed and that force it back open. There's just so much

Sparky 2:

49 I'm sure I'm pretty sure the kitchen in our house was soft, close. And because he got fooled that much stuff goes mechanism

Shell 2:

58 so what can we establish

Sparky 3:

01 about that one as well. The fact that you told me that your psychiatrist said to you, what would you like to do? We discussed this in an episode as well. I'm just thinking about it, how we'd like to have like a show home and how we like to have like minimal and we don't use training

Shell 3:

14 at home. Like anyone needs that. That's my dream. I just can't maintain that. It was it's

Sparky 3:

21 so hard. It's so hard. Organisation for me is probably one of the worst or not the worst symptoms but one of the ones that affects me on a daily basis because not only can I just not organise things in the house but can't organise my thoughts and organise the audit I'm doing things so all of these are kind of leading into each other as well. Because you could kind of put that down to an attention you know, sustaining your attention is difficult because the organisation of your thoughts and the way you do things seem to get like jumbled around so most people will be like, okay, so I'll do that first and then that and I'm like no, what I'll do is I will do a first and I'll do G and then I'll go back to C and just all over the place.

Shell 3:

53 as well. It's it's just a complete contradiction. So I can't work effectively in a messy environment. When I sit down at the desk and there's clutter and shit everywhere. Like I'm just constantly aware of that can see it isn't just there in my mind is a stressor I can't focus on what I'm doing. I just really want to get it like cleaned and sorted but I can't maintain that. Like I can't clean it and it's a clean by like the next day. There's clutter everywhere. So I'm just designed to stress myself out.

Sparky 4:

20 It's so true. Do you ever feel like you're just cleaning constantly the same things over and over and over again? Same place? Yeah,

Shell 4:

26 you don't remember how I got back?

Sparky 4:

28 You say to yourself, right I'm cleaning the kitchen. I'm going to keep you like this. And I'm not even joking. Even the next day is slightly a half an hour. I've made some cereals or I've made something to any sponsor like and I'm like, oh my god, okay, I actually screw up the small and that's like poor prints all over it. I've got that side of grass all over the floor and you know I've dropped cereal on the floor. And someone's got coffee stains on it. Just chaos just absolute chaos organisation is really not my strong point. But you know what's the best thing about this? Is you know at the top thing is on my CV. You've

Shell 4:

59 got sick organisations,

Sparky 5:

01 good organisations great organisation skills, never organise anything. Okay, so

Shell 5:

07 the next one is avoids or dislikes tasks requiring sustained mental effort. Got any examples of this show? Yeah, loads through the website. Yeah, well, yeah, the website and episodes. People regular listeners of the show more famous, you know, we started the podcast, I spent hours creating us a website, gave the login details. And then we stayed three hours on two hours, maybe even before the podcast launch, you managed to delete the entire

Sparky 5:

35 I made a careless mistake.

Shell 5:

37 All you have to do is write a bio. That's all you have to write it I think just had to read it and check.

Sparky 5:

43 I don't even know why I had the password to be honest. Why did you

Shell 5:

47 just want to told you, which I'm pretty sure you

Sparky 5:

49 did anyway.

Shell 5:

51 So for me, like where I struggle with this is like form filling. So any sort of like important forms. I just have to really psyched myself up to do them. And I always thought it's because I'm dyslexic and I don't write very much. And I thought it was like psyching myself up to do by writing as you can almost never type these forms have to handwrite them. But actually, I didn't really have any habits about writing. I didn't care that it's a mess. I think this is just in ADHD and like not wanting to do something

Sparky 6:

14 for like doing your taxes.

Shell 6:

17 Oh my life every single year. On the very last day they compete submitted. It's so

Sparky 6:

28 I don't understand now. But for the last four years of my life or maybe even longer. It's 31st of January. Tend to midnight, frantically phoning them. I know that those people have got jobs because of people like me. I know that that they've been given longer hours because of people like me, and yet I bet they absolutely hate it. I bet they sit there and I bet they get all the ADHD callers on that day. And I think these are the people that we have to stay here till midnight. To help because

Shell 6:

54 that's why it's the 31st of January like they deliberately put it at a time of the year where people do tend to have that much of a plan.

Sparky 7:

01 It's like now I've got the email. I've had three now, do it do your self assessment early. Then it gives me the benefits of why I should do it early. And I read it I'm like, Yeah, I understand. I'm gonna do that and then write it tomorrow. And then tomorrow never comes and I know that I should do I just so boring, so mundane. And it goes round and round and round enough to answer all these questions and every single year in Sydney Information box to kind of understand what it means that are Googling me and I'm phoning and after waiting in queue and Isn't that awful music and it's torture every single year. isn't that bad? Do it because it actually wasn't that bad. What I've done is I've made it worse for myself because now any questions that I have I need to know. And now I'm getting stressed. I've got to wait in the queue. Because if they don't answer, I'm not going to submit it in time and

Shell 7:

46 stuff like that as well. It really wouldn't help me to be given like a deadline extension. Because whatever whatever the actual deadline was, I wouldn't start it until an unreasonable amount of time before then anyway, just leave that so if I had a longer day, but I might just leave it longer.

Sparky 7:

58 Exactly. They said to me, it has to be done on the 31st the same way. So first of December, I'd be the same if it was the 31st of December 31 of January 31 of February 3 You see where this is gonna be Yeah. It's gonna be there's

Shell 8:

10 no way that anyone could really help you. It's because I still

Sparky 8:

12 would do it. Because you know, at the end of the day, what you're saying, no one's really busy in January but you've got Christmas and New Year's. And then you've got to do this for a generation or in a fall in January or February. Boring months of the year. Honestly, it's nothing. It's cold. It's just born.

Shell 8:

27 Okay, well, let's move on to the next one. Because I'm sure this is what we're gonna be both very passionate about. Loses things necessary for tasks activities. This is another good one Keys, keys, keys.

Sparky 8:

38 Keys, keys, Keys, keys keys. Keys, keys, bank card by card bank

Shell 8:

43 cards about bonus, I think I think all the way to the hall pass out because I'll use it. I'll just say my bank card, forgetting that that really is the only important thing and so I just use that anyway, it's just

Sparky 8:

51 HSBC I've actually started charging you know, for my bank card. Every single time I've been able to cancel my card when I actually get to do it because I get to the point where I'm like, no, no, I'm gonna find it and find it. Just get supplements like I'm not going to find it on March I'll just get a new one. And then you can guarantee as soon as the car cancelled and they say it's going to take five working days. As soon as I put the phone down. I'm going to release their

Shell 9:

12 ID. I mean it's in your pocket this morning.

Sparky 9:

17 I put my official title and looking at it. I've tried to order a pizza and I was like, where's my phone?

Shell 9:

28 Get me to say that he was going to have Have you seen my phone cut on my grave? And now it goes really guilty because it's a symptom of my brain disorder.

Sparky 9:

38 Know what I was doing, you know, I was doing with the day. So I was playing sniffer games with Otto. And obviously, those of you who know it is my dog. But just for those who are aware, and there's plenty sniffer games where you kind of hide treats and you do like little things where you get into it. You just encourage them to use their brain a bit more. And I was looking at how to play the significance and we will Oh my god. There's actually a thing on there where you can get them to like I think the centre is like lavender or something strong like that. And you could put it in like little vials and you can attach it to your keys and you can sniff it out if you get them and I was like that is absolutely amazing. For ADHD, or you could just go with the keys and he'll just pick it up. So I'm going to train him to smell this smell. I'm going to find out what it is I'm thinking something like that anyway. And then if I ever lose my keys, I'm just gonna put it in the bank card as well. I'm just gonna attach this little thing to my bank card and I'm gonna get in sniffed out because it's going to be a game changer. So I'm relying on my dog. He's got better brain. And anyway, he probably goes a risk of talking about dogs again, we should probably jump into the

Shell 10:

39 next one. Maybe you should say that because the next one is easily distracted, including unrelated thoughts. We can both comfortably say that we suffer when

Sparky 10:

53 it comes to just being distracted, talking about distractions that's oftentimes and apologising for it. So any other explanations or any other thoughts or things that you do? Where you find you're easily distracted? We talked about the TV in the beginning which was sustained attention and things like that, but this isn't, I guess it's more about actually being physically distracted.

Shell 11:

11 Yeah. So this one for me is often if I'm in conversations with people, like I'll be talking about something and it'll remind me of something else. And I know that if I'm upset I'll forget it. So I just I don't really like jump into that and it's not necessarily that related to it

Sparky 11:

23 or sometimes you think it's related to jump in and then actually you start talking about you realise you're going on and anything that isn't related to anything, anything this conversation was about, then you kind of have to kind of go off it and they look really stupid and you think oh my God, I hope people don't notice. And I feel like I do this quite a lot on the podcast. I'll start talking about something and I think it's got a point and it doesn't have a point. We just should just call it bring it back to what we're talking about. Everyone's gonna think oh, I'm stupid.

Shell 11:

46 This really reminds me of like dolphins and what he's gonna

Sparky 11:

54 say sometimes it's good, right? The sneaky thing that was

Shell 11:

56 related to be honest, if that's usually makes sense, but I just never know what you're gonna say next. Yeah, never. I can never predict what the example is going to be.

Sparky 12:

05 Sometimes I'm distracted. I'm talking. So I'll be talking and I'll be getting onto a board and I'll get distracted by another thing. And then I kind of lose the focus of what he's talking about. And then it doesn't really make sense. So I do think I do that quite a lot actually. Unrelated thoughts

Shell 12:

20 Okay, so the last one oh company we made it through. I mean, this is gonna be there's gonna be quite as long as it is forgetful in daily activities. So this has to do with working memory. So really good example for me. Is to work some reason I name it because I have to go upstairs to a different room and have the only thing I can do. I can manage to make tea whereas at home back at the end of the day, it's like a bit of a rush and you can find in my kitchen like it might just be a cup with no water and a tea bag is where I've tried to make my morning tea and not even got the water. It might be that I made the tea but didn't drink it. It got cold. And so it's still in the microwave because you gotta have the microwave. It might be somewhere in the house.

Sparky 13:

00 You forget where you put something. Do you know that you do that? You're doing some of that activity. So cooking for example, or something and then you move something slightly to the left. And then you got to pick it up again. Yeah, where is it and then you kind of like go around in circles that are looking for it and you like it was here it cannot be moved anywhere else. It cannot be in a different room. It was definitely here. And then you realise actually you went to the toilets. You took your tea for example with you or something and it's actually on the shelf. Okay, that's where that's where I pretty that's where we left and also a another one for this one is I don't know if this is related, but maybe I'll be relate to one of the other ones as well. So sorry about his book. I guess it's kind of activity so food, I buy lots of food. And then I am ashamed to admit this this is this is one of the shameful kind of side effects of ADHD is all throw so much food away because it's in there. So say I'm making something with tomatoes and I forget to put the tomatoes in and then the tomatoes just sitting in the fridge and start writing. Oh no. And then you'll see there's a six pack of tomatoes with another six pack on top and another six packets off and they're all out of day.

Shell 14:

00 So this is something called object permanence. And it is an ADHD symptom is not on the diagnostic criteria. So it's where if you can't sort of see or interact with something on a daily basis, then you forget that it exists. So yeah, it's definitely something I do as well. Like we have similar issues and all you can do with things like say like the day I put some I don't really want to chips she's like waiting waiting by chips. When we eat that much like Chick fil A a few years ago as a tree you know, she wasn't doing very well let's do some chips for lunch. And I put it in the oven and then went into the lounge and it forgot just like the chips. No concept. Like if you said to me what we haven't really looked at it I just completely forgot that they existed until

Sparky 14:

43 it Do you know what the funniest thing about this symptom is, is obviously we both suffer with it, but it's the fact that it just literally comes out of nowhere because this is the symptom the magic. Just a shock every single time it shock because it just comes out of nowhere. It's like out of nowhere. And I think we should probably do a section where I think there will be a funny section where every week we talk about out of nowhere like what's what's come out of nowhere this week because I know what's been done. For example, for me this week, it has been now I know that I have to order every prescription medication for Adam's Nan's cat every month, right, but you can guarantee that I'll forget every single month and then out of nowhere, it's like got everyone. It's the same process. It's paying more for delivery the next day Yeah, next day delivery to do every time to do it on a Friday evening where Alexei live is not even exist anymore because it's the weekend and it's not coming. It's not gonna be dispatched on Monday. So it's definitely not gonna get there till Tuesday. So really, it's it's took about four or five days anyway. But every month is out of nowhere because I forget. Yeah, it's called Object hamlets.

Shell 15:

53 And it happens with people as well. So you know, we're both really bad at like keeping in touch with people and like you go like weeks or months without speaking to a friend or something I've got to how to speak to this person ages because it's object covenants because I haven't been in front of breaking

Sparky 16:

10 on that cheery note. inattentive symptoms. So as you might have noticed, we suffered with every single one

Shell 16:

15 of them. We can outline on this when I did the bicep system, we can

Sparky 16:

20 get so many examples. I mean, we've only touched on just a few. But the reason that we wanted to really mention the inattentive symptoms is because when you are going through an ADHD assessment, everybody's different and they may say things and you think well I don't do that. But actually when you think about it, you do them often on a daily basis. Yeah, like you might not do the specific example that you're given, but if you know, nice pennants very well, you might not do the specific things. So for me, it was like leaving the chips in the oven and looking away and forgetting about it. Maybe you don't do that. But you can think of other times in your day. That you forget. You'd be easily distracted or so on that lovely notes. We're going to open up this week. And then we're going to bring our main thing in next week because we haven't had time to prepare this week we need to get a little bit more sorted

Shell 17:

00 because Spark is sprung this on me last minute as we started recording that doesn't actually have a means to start a software.

Sparky 17:

06 Anyway, thank you very much for listening. I will see you next week for another ADHD focus.

Shell 17:

16 See you next time.

Sparky 17:

18 All right, that's everything this week guys, but if you want to carry on with the conversation, join us over on our social media platforms or in all the major channels and our handle a dopamine kick.

Shell 17:

26 We'd also be super grateful if you could review the podcast wherever you're listening because it helps us grow our audience and help people okay, we'll see you in the next one.

Unknown Speaker 17:

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